Posts by Black Sheep

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Are MOST JW's lacking Moral Fibre ?

by Phizzy in

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i find that whether born in or converts, most jw's give their own conscience over to the gb (and writing dept) to dictate how they will react to any moral question.. they simply lack a conscience of their own.. this is not their fault, we should not look down on them for this, their conscience, their natural feeling of what is right and wrong has been:.

stolen from them !.

we all know how the cult does this to them, it did it to us, i really am almost in tears when i think that had either of my darling children needed a blood transfusion i would have resisted, believing what i have been taught all my life, that their eternal life was more important than their life now.. how can we persuade jw's to take back their conscience ?.

Black Sheep

I don't think it is about getting them to hear what we are saying. It is about getting them to think about stuff that they already know about, but are suppressing.

They want Jehovah gOdd to hurry up and bring Paradise, but they don't really like the idea of innocent kids of non-JWs being indiscriminately killed, so they try tricks to minimise these deaths to themselves, or to blank out the thoughts. Our job is to pick the scabs off their faulty repair jobs and get them thinking about the WT crap they are being fed.

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Apologies for outage

by Simon in

looks like the forum went down (right after i went to bed, doh!)..

i really should get some monitoring setup but it's been pretty rock solid for ages so i've never bothered.. must be something todo with all the tinkering i've been doing and the background job i started running yesterday.. anyway, sorry for anyone who's been trying to access the site..

Black Sheep

...and I was thinking it had something to do with my 1000 word essay on how to engineer the downfall of the bOrg.

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Gran is dying.

by LouBelle in

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friends

my dear granny hasn't been feeling well for some time and has had a problem keeping anything down.

she had lost a lot of weight and gone for many tests.

those tests came back and on friday we were told she has cancer of the pancreas.

Black Sheep

Sorry to hear this LouBelle. My thoughts will be with you.

((((LouBelle))))

Chris

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Hear Ye!!!Hear Ye!! WONDERFUL GOOD NEWS!!!!

by mouthy in

my jw daughter called me this afternoon!!!!!

!i am just over the moon.

her hubby not a jw has cancer & was operated on today!!!!.

Black Sheep

That's lovely to hear Grace. Made my day.

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Are you the huggy sort?

by Ucantnome in

i don't really do hugs and kisses.

my wife went to hug me this morning and i instinctively backed away.

we laughed.

Black Sheep

I always do hugs and kisses. It must be their choice to refrain.

When a family member dies, I'm there. What happens is their choice, not mine.

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Help with making a "timeline of beliefs"

by ILoveTTATT in

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friends

i would like your help in making a "timeline of beliefs" for jw's... for example, i want to start with:.

"a jw/bs would have believed the following in 1880:.

the last days started in 1799.. jesus's parousia occurred in 1874.. jesus started reigning in 1878.. the end of the harvest will be in 1914.. the end of the gentile times will be in 1914.. the end of the world will be in 1914.. belief in the ransom sacrifice is vital for salvation.. hell is not a bible doctrine.. .

Black Sheep

The doctrine of Noo Lite is common to all cults, only the name changes. Anyone wanting to follow the timeline of any WT doctrinal changes has oodles of resources on the net and their WTCD.

If us non/ex/op/dubs need a list of tools, maybe it should rated on effectiveness rather than just another list to be ignored by the drones.

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What's with all the JWs unleashing the hate!?

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

most of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.

sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.

that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?

Black Sheep

If you want to get somewhere with cult members, try getting them into love bombing mode and keeping them there until they leave.

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Wife update

by problemaddict in

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friends

if you want the short version, scroll down to "short version".. .

so i am at 1200 posts or so (only about 6 were probably of note), and i still havenlt told my story and probably won't for some time.

basically, i was a born in who has served in other countries, as an ms, and given talks etc... my wife and i were in foreign language, have co's we have counted as close family friends, and were basically the golden boy and girl of their respective areas.

Black Sheep

Nice

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BiIG AWAKE CHANGE IN THE 90's and past changes.

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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hello all this is my first post i've been having many doubts with all this "bright light" not changes lately... and with past changes such as this one not sure if i can post this but i guess i'll find out :.

Black Sheep

Welcome to the forum AJ

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Jeremiah 29:10

by Crazyguy in

the verse in the jw bible says "at babylon" but so does all the king james versions so what gives, and how does one find the proper translation of this scripture.

also what in your opinions is the most acurate translation of the bible?.

Black Sheep

What is the NNWT 0.1 translation of Jeremiah 25:12? How does it fit with 29:10 in the KJV and NNWT 0.1?